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Aspen Leading Edge Podcasts with Host Dean Patty Roberts

The Aspen Leading Edge Podcast features timely interviews with Aspen Authors as well as other legal thought-leaders sharing expert opinions on teaching, learning science, and the current and future state of legal education. Host Patty Roberts, Dean of St. Mary's University School of Law, will discuss current challenges and innovations in legal education, and predictions for its future, in conversations with various leaders in legal education.

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Aspen Leading Edge Podcast, Episode 92: Race and the Foundation of American Law with Nicole Dyszlewski

Patricia E. Roberts

Join Nicole Dyszlewski, Assistant Dean for Curricular Innovation at Roger Williams University, as she discusses the groundbreaking Race and the Foundation of American Law course, now required for all law students. Nicole shares how the course explores race in the legal system through guest speakers and a public webinar series. She also talks about the impact of the first Social Justice Summer Camp for middle school students. Tune in to hear how Nicole is shaping the future of legal education and social justice.
Aspen Leading Edge Podcast, Episode 91: NextGen Bar Exam Unpacked with Sophie Dye Gayle

Patricia E. Roberts

In this episode, we sit down with Sophie Dye Gayle, Director of Legal Education and Innovation at Themis Bar Review, to explore the exciting changes coming to the bar exam and legal education. Sophie discusses the NextGen Bar Exam, including the integrated questions, change in scoring, and inclusion of Family Law. She also shares how Themis is preparing future law students and schools for the new exam as well as predicts other upcoming changes to bar prep.
Aspen Leading Edge Podcast, Epidsode 90: Conversations with Deans: Lolita Buckner Inniss

Patricia E. Roberts

Lolita Buckner Inniss, Colorado Law, shares her journey to becoming dean and her thoughts about being the 17th dean, the second woman dean, and the first Black dean. She also talks about being President of the women in legal education section of AALS and the increase in female law students. Lolita also brings up the new Introduction to Law for undergraduates at the University of Colorado Boulder.
Aspen Leading Edge Podcast, Episode 89: Excellence in Policing and Public Safety with Seth Stoughton and Chris Cowan

Patricia E. Roberts

Seth Stoughton and Chris Cowan, University of South Carolina, share the origins and details of the Excellence in Policing and Public Safety (EPPS) Program, which is designed to advance policing and improve public safety outcomes through collaborative training, assistance research, and community partnerships. They also discuss why this program is important for current and future law officers.
Aspen Leading Edge Podcast, Episode 88: Conversations with Deans: Julie Hill

Patricia E. Roberts

Julie Hill, University of Wyoming, shares her journey from the University of Alabama and her favorite things about Wyoming, including the new building dedicated to clinics. She also talks about her thoughts about being the only law school in the state and how she wants to further support students.
Aspen Leading Edge Podcast, Episode 87: Conversations with Deans: D.J. Western

Patricia E. Roberts

D.J. Western, Appalachian School of Law, updates how his community is doing after Hurricane Helene. He also discusses his journey from the Air Force to becoming a law school dean as well as updates on the school, including a Master of Legal Studies and a Veteran’s clinic.
Aspen Leading Edge Podcast, Episode 86: Social Media and Trial Advocacy with Camille Abate and Kathleen Mullin

Patricia E. Roberts

Camille Abate, Brooklyn Law School and Founder and Master Trainer, Foundation for Excellence in Trial Advocacy, and Kathleen Mullin, Seton Hall University; Highly Qualified Subject Matter Expert, US Navy JAGC Defense Counsel Assistance Program discuss the second edition of their textbook, Advocacy Excellence: The Jury Trial. They also share their thoughts on the impact of social media and emojis on trials today and important skills students need to understand before becoming a trial lawyer.
Aspen Leading Edge Podcast, Episode 85: Conversations with Deans: Elizabeth Kronk Warner

Patricia E. Roberts

Dean Elizabeth Kronk Warner, University of Utah College of Law, shares her excitement on entering her sixth year as dean. She also shares her thoughts about the current election season and how to foster civility and respectful conversations. Dean Kronk Warner also talks about her time as a tribal court judge and supporting Native American law students.
Aspen Leading Edge Podcast, Episode 84: Conversations with Deans: Leah Chan Grinvald

Patricia E. Roberts

Dean Leah Chan Grinvald, William S. Boyd School of Law at UNLV, shares her journey towards becoming a dean and reflects on her first two years at UNLV. Dean Grinvald also talks about the legal writing program and how the school has been rated as one of the best returns on investment.
Aspen Leading Edge Podcast, Episode 83: Conversations with Deans: Darby Dickerson

Patricia E. Roberts

Darby Dickerson, Dean of Southwestern Law School, reflects on 21 years as a Dean, including her time at the University of Illinois Chicago School of Law, Texas Tech University, and Stetson University. She also shares current initiatives at Southwestern, including a full-time online JD program and a faculty leadership series.
Aspen Leading Edge Podcast, Episode 82: Conversations with Deans: Haider Hamoudi

Patricia E. Roberts

Haider Hamoudi, Dean of Cincinnati College of Law, reflects on his first year as Dean and shares his hopes for the upcoming year. He also discusses his publications, including Islamic Law in Modern Courts and Islamic Law in a Nutshell and his time as editor-in-chief of the Arab Law Quarterly.
Aspen Leading Edge Podcast, Episode 81: Climate Change and Property Law with Gerald Korngold, Nadav Shoked, and Hannah Wiseman

Patricia E. Roberts

Gerald Korngold, New York Law School, Nadav Shoked, Northwestern Law, and Hannah Wiseman, Penn State Law, discuss the eighth edition of Cases and Text on Property. From the addition of energy usage and climate change to an updated landlord/tenant section, this casebook focuses on contemporary and relevant issues for students.
Aspen Leading Edge Podcast, Episode 80: The Place-Based Approach with Christine Klein and Shannon Roesler

Patricia E. Roberts

Christine Klein, University of Florida, and Shannon Roesler, University of Iowa, discuss the third edition of their casebook, Property: Cases, Problems, and Skills. They share how their experience as environmental and natural resource law scholars influenced the casebook. Christine also gives insight into her Law of Fire and Flood course, while Shannon explains her popular one-week field study and Law of Geography program
Aspen Leading Edge Podcast, Episode 79: Conversations with Deans: Josh and Kendra Fershee

Patricia E. Roberts

Josh Fershee, Dean of Creighton University School of Law, and Kendra Fershee, Professor at Creighton University, discuss their journey to Omaha and their favorite parts of the city. Josh also discusses the numerous clinics currently being offered, including Community Connections, a legal resource center for the community.
Aspen Leading Edge Podcast, Episode 78: Conversations with Deans: Ronald Weich

Patricia E. Roberts

Ronald Weich, Seton Hall University, reflects on his 12 years as dean of the University of Baltimore School of Law and what he hopes as he begins his deanship at Seton Hall University. He also shares his thoughts about unifying and collaborative efforts that should be made between the law school and the university.
Aspen Leading Edge Podcast, Episode 77: The Future of Wills, Trusts, and Estates with Reid Weisbord and David Horton

Patricia E. Roberts

Reid Weisbord, Rutgers University, and David Horton, UC Davis, discuss the third edition of their coursebook, Wills, Trusts, and Estates: The Essentials, and what tools and resources they are offering for students and professors. They also talk about the future of the specialty and how A.I. may play a factor.
Aspen Leading Edge Podcast, Episode 76: Conversations with Deans: Dan Filler

Patricia E. Roberts

Dan Filler, Drexel University, talks about being part of the inaugural faculty of the Kline School of Law and what the law school is doing to provide interdisciplinary opportunities. This includes a co-op program where students can earn academic credit for working with practitioners and a new undergraduate degree in law.
Aspen Leading Edge Podcast, Episode 75: Problem-Based Approach with Andrew Verstein and Lynn LoPucki

Patricia E. Roberts

Andrew Verstein, University of California, Los Angeles School of Law, and Lynn LoPucki, University of Florida College of Law, talks about the second edition of Business Associations: A Systems Approach. They talk about the benefits of using a problem-based approach in a business associations course and what additional teaching materials they provide to help professors teach the course.
Aspen Leading Edge Podcast, Episode 74: Teaching Case Studies with Michael Cahill

Patricia E. Roberts

Michael Cahill, Brooklyn Law School, shares his experience of being Co-Dean at Rutgers University and Dean at Brooklyn Law School and what the transition is like to becoming a full-time professor again. He also goes into detail about the upcoming sixth edition of Criminal Law: Case Studies and Controversies and how he goes about teaching case studies.
Aspen Leading Edge Podcast, Episode 73: Conversations with Deans: Andy Perlman

Patricia E. Roberts

Andy Perlman, Suffolk University, shares his opinions on Generative AI and the future it will hold in both the legal profession and legal education. Including what use it may have in the admissions process both for the applicant and for the school. He also gives law school advice about incorporating legal technology and innovation into the curriculum.
Aspen Leading Edge Podcast, Episode 72: Bar Exam Prep with Alex Ruskell

Patricia E. Roberts

Alex Ruskell, University of South Carolina, advises on preparing for the Bar Exam and shares what will be coming with the NextGen Bar Exam. He also speaks about his book Strategies & Tactics for the Finz Multistate Method.
Aspen Leading Edge Podcast, Episode 71: Moral Philosophy in Law with Bradley Wendel

Patricia E. Roberts

Bradley Wendel, Cornell Law School, talks about changing the seventh edition of Examples & Explanations: Professional Responsibility, what will be coming up in the next edition of Torts: Cases and Materials, and the details behind his newest book, Canceling Lawyers. He also talks about how he relates moral philosophy in his class.
Aspen Leading Edge Podcast, Episode 70: Teaching Doctrine with Alexandra Lahav

Patricia E. Roberts

Alexandra Lahav, Cornell University, talks about the new edition of her casebook, Civil Procedure: Doctrine, Practice, and Context. She provides advice on how to teach the course with the textbook and what materials she adds to her course. Alexandra also shares details of her book, In Praise of Litigation.
Aspen Leading Edge Podcast, Episode 69: Local Policing and the Law with Rachel Harmon

Patricia E. Roberts

Rachel Harmon, University of Virginia, talks about the second edition of her casebook, The Law of the Police, what changes have been made, and how other professors are teaching the material. She also discusses the government’s role in local policing.
Aspen Leading Edge Podcast, Episode 68: Conversations with Deans: Megan Carpenter

Patricia E. Roberts

Megan Carpenter, University of New Hampshire Franklin Pierce School of Law, talks about the university’s hybrid JD program including the origin of the program and the unique immersion offerings included. She also describes the Daniel Webster Scholar Honor Program and how the students build their portfolios.