EdUp Legal Podcast, Episode 69: Conversation with Aliza Shatzman

EdUp Legal Podcast, Episode 69: Conversation with Aliza Shatzman



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EdUp Legal Podcast with Host Patty Roberts

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In today’s episode, we welcome Aliza Shatzman, the president and co-founder of the Legal Accountability Project, a non-profit aimed at ensuring law clerks have positive clerkship experiences and helping support and extend resources to those who don’t. Aliza shares with us her experiences with gender discrimination, harassment, and retaliation while clerking in D.C., the revocation of her dream job, and the exemption that judges and clerks have from Title VII that led her to co-found the Legal Accountability project on June 1, 2022, with Matt Goodman. She shares with us the reception she is getting for her non-profit from the various stakeholders, such as judges, former clerks, current clerks, student leaders, and law schools. She tells us the two initiatives the Legal Accountability Project is working on in collaboration with law schools beginning in the fall. The first is a centralized reporting database that provides anonymous information on clerkships, and the second is a workplace assessment of the federal and state judiciaries. Finally, she shares her thoughts on the evolution of legal education and her predictions for the coming decade. She hopes that this year, 10 law schools will partner with the Legal Accountability Project on the database and that more will partner with them on the workplace assessment, 5-10 years down the road. On a broader scale, she hopes legal education is more responsive to student needs.


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EdUp Legal, podcast, Dean Patty Roberts, St. Mary's University School of Law, legal education, legal scholarship, law professor, Aliza Shatzman, Legal Accountability Project, law clerks, gender discrimination, harassment, retaliation, Title VII, Matt Goodman, stakeholders, judges, federal and state judiciaries


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October 2023



EdUp Legal Podcast, Episode 69: Conversation with Aliza Shatzman